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	<title>Comments on: The God Who Wasn&#8217;t There</title>
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		<title>By: David Morris</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve seen this movie and agree it creates distortion to prove a point. And even in some spots the director just goes gonzo on us, and for that, I wouldn&#039;t recommend anyone watching it because he does a poor job edifying anyone, or anything. My suggestion is that you have to gain a birds eye view on what he&#039;s trying to do--albeit sensationally. It&#039;s not so much a question about whether God is true or not, but rather a question of whether the way the human institution of the church must challenge itself to move on and not give credence to the distortions that inevitably happen.

I totally agree with you that cracking open a few books on church history is a good idea. In fact, it may be more important at the time we now live in. This shouldn&#039;t seem so hard or unaccessible, but alas, it is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen this movie and agree it creates distortion to prove a point. And even in some spots the director just goes gonzo on us, and for that, I wouldn&#8217;t recommend anyone watching it because he does a poor job edifying anyone, or anything. My suggestion is that you have to gain a birds eye view on what he&#8217;s trying to do&#8211;albeit sensationally. It&#8217;s not so much a question about whether God is true or not, but rather a question of whether the way the human institution of the church must challenge itself to move on and not give credence to the distortions that inevitably happen.</p>
<p>I totally agree with you that cracking open a few books on church history is a good idea. In fact, it may be more important at the time we now live in. This shouldn&#8217;t seem so hard or unaccessible, but alas, it is.</p>
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		<title>By: John Lunt</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 03:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There will always be naysayers.  That&#039;s why God never expected his church to deal with what they say on an intellectual level.  Paul himself said he didn&#039;t come with the wisdom of man but in the demonstration of the power and the Spirit.  God wins when we yield to him and stand on faith.  He will give wisdom that man  can&#039;t challenge.  When we love the way God wants us to love,  their arguments fail.  When we pray for the sick and they are healed - their arguments fail.  God is not weak.  His Kingdom is not challenged by scoffers.  I no longer look at the way the way the world views us.  I will not compromise the Word of God...that includes the reality of Hell whether they believe or accept it or not.  

I will love them and demonstrate love and caring.  I will stand firm on my faith and I will believe and pray for the supernatural so God can convince of his truth.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There will always be naysayers.  That&#8217;s why God never expected his church to deal with what they say on an intellectual level.  Paul himself said he didn&#8217;t come with the wisdom of man but in the demonstration of the power and the Spirit.  God wins when we yield to him and stand on faith.  He will give wisdom that man  can&#8217;t challenge.  When we love the way God wants us to love,  their arguments fail.  When we pray for the sick and they are healed &#8211; their arguments fail.  God is not weak.  His Kingdom is not challenged by scoffers.  I no longer look at the way the way the world views us.  I will not compromise the Word of God&#8230;that includes the reality of Hell whether they believe or accept it or not.  </p>
<p>I will love them and demonstrate love and caring.  I will stand firm on my faith and I will believe and pray for the supernatural so God can convince of his truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Philippa</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I believe that a major challenge America faces (and I don&#039;t live there, so please correct me if I&#039;m wrong...) is that Christians need to set the moral standard for the country.  In their passion for what&#039;s &quot;right&quot; (e.g. anti-abortion, anti-homosexual, etc) they hold up the bible as Life&#039;s Manual.  Unfortunately, this does not resonate with the vast majority of people, and Christianity instead becomes a set of rules and do&#039;s &amp; don&#039;ts (seen as mostly don&#039;ts).  For instance, if someone said to me that I had to believe a certain way or not do a certain thing because the Koran said so, I would have to say I would not and could not comply.

So what happens is that a large portion of preachers and (dare I say the word) Christians preach hell and damnation and judgment, and many, many others draw the conclusion that Christians are radical fundies, who hate everyone who doesn&#039;t believe as they do.

Jesus never operated in the halls of power or by grandstanding.  If every Christian who truly believed in putting others first, who believed in God&#039;s grace to them - a sinner, who knew their own fallen nature, who wanted God&#039;s will, who actually &lt;i&gt;loved their neighbour with true agape love, then we wouldn&#039;t get movies like this.  Because we would be quietly and faithfully serving and loving others, who would want what we have, and would turn to God out of love and in turn would love others.

I liked what you said about knowing about your faith, and researching and learning.  So many people spout stuff they&#039;ve heard, and it&#039;s just depressing and scary the level of ignorance.

Sorry, this comment is really long!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that a major challenge America faces (and I don&#8217;t live there, so please correct me if I&#8217;m wrong&#8230;) is that Christians need to set the moral standard for the country.  In their passion for what&#8217;s &#8220;right&#8221; (e.g. anti-abortion, anti-homosexual, etc) they hold up the bible as Life&#8217;s Manual.  Unfortunately, this does not resonate with the vast majority of people, and Christianity instead becomes a set of rules and do&#8217;s &amp; don&#8217;ts (seen as mostly don&#8217;ts).  For instance, if someone said to me that I had to believe a certain way or not do a certain thing because the Koran said so, I would have to say I would not and could not comply.</p>
<p>So what happens is that a large portion of preachers and (dare I say the word) Christians preach hell and damnation and judgment, and many, many others draw the conclusion that Christians are radical fundies, who hate everyone who doesn&#8217;t believe as they do.</p>
<p>Jesus never operated in the halls of power or by grandstanding.  If every Christian who truly believed in putting others first, who believed in God&#8217;s grace to them &#8211; a sinner, who knew their own fallen nature, who wanted God&#8217;s will, who actually <i>loved their neighbour with true agape love, then we wouldn&#8217;t get movies like this.  Because we would be quietly and faithfully serving and loving others, who would want what we have, and would turn to God out of love and in turn would love others.</p>
<p>I liked what you said about knowing about your faith, and researching and learning.  So many people spout stuff they&#8217;ve heard, and it&#8217;s just depressing and scary the level of ignorance.</p>
<p>Sorry, this comment is really long!</i></p>
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