…and I cannot come down (Nehemiah 6:3)
What do you think?
Schaeffer is right in that “you[we] have to move past them”. This means wresting the republican party back from their control. They must be politically marginalised, just like Mr. TimeCube (Gene Ray) (www.timecube.com) , brought out occasionally on slow news days to amuse and shock viewers.
This is more of a political problem than a religious one.
I’d like to see it rescued from fundy-baiting intellectual lightweights like Frankie Schaeffer.
I heard Frankie Schaeffer at a convention at least 25 years ago – maybe more. He was definitely speaking for the right. He was harsh and arrogant in his tone. Now he has a different message but he still seems harsh and arrogant. I see no difference between him and the right wingers because I can never get past the name calling which I think is a larger moral issue than most of the issues about which people are fighting. I would not be all that thrilled to have him as either a friend or an enemy. I appreciate you posting this. I am sure he has some things of real value to say. i have always thought he was bright. He’s no Francis Schaeffer, but he does have something to offer if he could could be more civil and charitable about it.
It is a political, as well as a societal problem, and that yes, society does have to move past them. The problem is, albeit their theology is in error, they are still children of God, how do we love them? When they do get marginalized, its likely the idiocy will increase rather than decrease, thats going to be a tough one to get a handle on to respond in love.
From a faith point of view, the Holy Spirit at some point will lead many to repentance, and when that happens, many will find they built their faith on sand, rather than on Christ. A lot of worldviews will come crashing down, and there will be a huge need for ministers of the Gospel to help folks through that.
Not that I know much of Frank Schaeffer, but he is right on a bunch of things in this video. Especially the point that people who actively distrust fact and real knowledge also are the people who bring guns to meetings, and in the long run might be the very same people that think flying planes into buildings is a great idea.
He might be a bit too illustrative when he speaks of these people as living in “la-la land”, but let’s face it, he’s right. These people ARE living in a whole other world from us, some place far away from the reality the rest of us live in. They cannot be allowed to dictate law and policy by sheer volume.
@Nathaniel. OBJECTIVELY, fundamentalists do not live in a whole other world. They get born, they get sick, they die, they work jobs, they care for their children. They need to eat, wear clothes and live places. They have children and grandchildren, all of them also live life, have challenges, struggle(or excel) through their schooling, have families, have troubles, pay taxes and make mistakes. They make a living, and care for each other in the same world that everyone else lives in.
All of this “whole other world” talk is just dangerous rhetorical means of making the people we don’t agree with into the dreaded “other”.
I have heard all my life that Christian Fundamentalists were crazy and were ultimately going to be taking on the tactics of Muslim jihadists. This has never happened. I don’t think it ever will, because, outside a few people who are legitimately schizophrenic who happen to also identify as “fundamentalists”, these people are still using the Bible as their guide. And the Bible never calls for anything like flying planes into buildings.
This is all just hateful, fear-mongering political rhetoric. In the middle east, there is a lot of propaganda that, oddly enough, compares the Jews to the Nazis. Comparing Fundamentalist Christians to Jihadist Muslims is every bit as ridiculous.
Rhetoric that fills people with irrational fear for a group of people threatens the freedom of everyone. That’s why I hate to see it in American political discourse.
Hear is a major biblical discovery that is being all but ignored by Christian leaders who prophess truth.
Thank you, Paul, for this fine example of really poor biblical scholarship! This is a great example of how not only the words of a passage can be taken out of context, but also the tone. Interesting that Isaiah 40 actually implies that the falling of the towers was a good thing, and the bit in the mouths is in reference to the enemies of Israel. Doesn’t seem to fit 911 at all, does it?
Also, the obvious scripting in the video to help validate the broadcasting company as on that is world-class. Well, if it were then I must have had my head under a rock, because I have never heard of it!
Thanks again, Paul, for bringing this to our attention!